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<p><br></p><h3>Host</h3><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/lucas-tauil-a46b5826/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Lucas Tauil</a> is a trained, and seasoned communicator focused on participative culture and collaboration. Connected to the world of sustainability and decentralised technology he has worked as a Journalist for two decades in mainstream media.&nbsp;</p><p>Working with the power of difference and collective intelligence on multiple stakeholders organisations since 2001, Lucas is part of <a href="https://www.enspiral.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Enspiral</a>, a collective of people working on stuff that matters.&nbsp;</p><p>In 2018, just before the Holo Initial Community Offering Lucas learned about Holochain on the Green Paper, and felt so inspired by the vision he couldn’t rest until he joined the team.</p><p>Together with his partner Sandra and eight other families, Lucas co-founded <a href="https://escolawaldorfquintalmagico.com.br/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Quintal Magico</a>, a communitarian Steiner school in Paraty, Brazil. The couple <a href="http://santapaz.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sailed</a> for six years with their two daughters from England to New Zealand.</p><h3><br></h3>]]>
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